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New Post 1/1/2008 6:03 PM
User is offline viking
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

 johnk wrote
 Likewise, the front page of this site starts with a lengthy list of all the technical features of the program, whereas it should start with a list of all the practical benefits the program will bring to the user.

 

Agree 100%, the user manual will scare away the average user. Less than 5% of the potential users wil appreciate the  details given as an introduction to SN.

The manual needs to start by explaining what the program is (and what it is not). For example Why/When/How is it better than Outlook, Excel and Access?

Furhtermore, some of the application examples given in the Wiki are much easier to implemented in Excel for the average user (e.g. the BasketBall Stats example).


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New Post 1/2/2008 7:30 PM
User is offline PPL
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

You must be right. Anyone interested in re-working the SQLNotes wiki documentation to make it more presentation ? Free personal licence to those that make significant contributions (I think I need all the help I can get )

As to the Basketball stats example, perhaps something similar could be done more simply in Excel, but you wouldn't get:

  • The multi-user data access/input requirement. The user was fighting with Access to get something working and had lost the battle. He finally won the war with the help of SQLNotes
  • The hierarchy display
  • Worry free data entry (In Excel, you need to copy cell equations and update the pivot table cell range otherwise it won't work)

The examples in the wiki should be considered as demonstration of the tools that are build in SQLNotes.


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New Post 1/2/2008 8:36 PM
User is offline Al
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

As mentioned in an earlier post, I don't think the name is that critical. If a names pops up that catches your fancy, great , go with it, otherwise I think naming products is fun, frustrating and an excerise in 'over engineering.'  What is going to make the product is an effective marketing strategy that identifies the correct maket niche and implements tactics to brand the product as something that will fullfill a need with the identified niche. As long as the product has a 'reasonable' name, the strategy will make the name, the name won't make the strategy.

With that said SQL Notes seems fine to me, probably because I'm use to it, NeoPlan and OnePlace also seem nice. How about PIERRE, "Let PIERRE do your planning work." It could be an acronymn for say, Planning, Informing, Embedding, Remembering, Relaxing, Enjoying. Just brain storming … humor me. In doing a search of various suggestions I had thought of, it seems the combinations of descriptive words, PIM, Plan, Info, Notes etc., that would work are already taken.


-Al- (Vista Home Premium, Admin, Auto-updates ON, UAC enabled, Firefox)
 
New Post 1/3/2008 7:21 PM
User is offline johnk
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Re: Decision time for a new name 
Just to expand slightly on what I said earlier about the approach to marketing your new product -- SQLNotes may become the best PIM ever invented, but unless this site radically changes the approach to getting your message across, I don't think it will ever go beyond a very small niche of PIM addicts. Maybe I'm being unfair. I realise this is still a beta product, and maybe you have big plans for a radical, marketing-oriented overhaul of this site.

Let's just take one small example -- the first line from the front page: SQLNotes (code name) is a new type of information management software (IMS), with Ecco Pro style outlining....

Ecco Pro style outlining? Sure, most people who are already interested in SQLNotes know exactly what that means. We've been around a while, we've been playing with outliners for decades, and we miss Ecco Pro. That's a very, very small group of people.

So already, after just a few words, 98 percent of the mainstream audience are lost. And by mainstream, I don't mean casual home PC users. I mean computer-savvy business people who might benefit from SQLNotes.

Sell the benefits, not the technology. You have to be able to tell that computer-savvy businessman why SQLNotes is better than any other PIM in two or three paragraphs.

But first, change the name.
 
New Post 1/4/2008 1:12 PM
User is offline mhailes
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Re: Decision time for a new name 
Modified By mhailes  on 1/4/2008 1:19:45 PM)

 

  • Daou

Sounds like a Korean car company that I think went bust

  • EchoNotes

OK but not exactly inspired - too close to a rip off of ecco

  • IciNotes, ICNotes

In the UK Iccky, Ici etc is a synonym for disgusting or messy, often used by girls as in "That's really Iccky" (when looking at my fishing maggots)

  • NeoPlan

Not bad

  • OutBase

Problem with pun on in/out - you want the product to be in not out

  • UPlan

Dull, sounds like a bathroom or kitchen design company 

  • Versatio

Weird, sounds like a character from Romeo and Juliet or a joke Roman name from "Up Pompei"

  • ZePim

Awful, especially when pronounced with a bad french accent

            

 
New Post 1/4/2008 5:25 PM
User is offline Al
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

How about 'NexGen' or 'NexGenPIM' - Next Generation Information Manager per opening site title?


-Al- (Vista Home Premium, Admin, Auto-updates ON, UAC enabled, Firefox)
 
New Post 1/4/2008 10:57 PM
User is offline PPL
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

How about variations on the cubes: You pour information in the cube and can then display it in a variety of ways

  1. DataCube, DataCubes, MyDataCube : Look at your data from different perspective.
  2. InfoCube, InfoCubes, MyInfoCube : Your information from a variety of perspective

I like it alot


Pierre (Win XP Pro SP2, Admin, Auto-updates ON, Firefox, Acer TravelMate 660 graphics).
 
New Post 1/5/2008 7:32 AM
User is offline mhailes
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Re: Decision time for a new name 
Modified By mhailes  on 1/5/2008 7:41:18 AM)

 PPL wrote

How about variations on the cubes: You pour information in the cube and can then display it in a variety of ways

I think the cube names are a bit technical again. Most users will have no idea what a data cube is. IMHOP "Neoplan" is the best name so far, but why not just:

Neo

There is a magazine called Neo and a laptop company owns neo.com, but no software as far as I can tell. (Neoplan.com is some kind of transport company!?). I like the connection of “Neo” with “new” since the software handles information in a new way. Also it doesn’t hurt that there is a character in the film “The Matrix” that is called Neo. 

Coincedentally Neo is also short  for  New  EccO  :)

 

 

 
New Post 1/5/2008 1:53 PM
User is offline Al
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

There is an add-in for Outlook called Neo and Neo Pro


-Al- (Vista Home Premium, Admin, Auto-updates ON, UAC enabled, Firefox)
 
New Post 1/5/2008 8:01 PM
User is offline BlueSky
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Re: Decision time for a new name 

I'm not wild about any of the listed names.  OutBase and OnePlace are OK, SQL Notes has grown on me but it should probably be changed.  On the donationcoder thread you received some suggestions that are worth considering.

MindPad

DataFlex

GridMind

I like the grid theme.  Here's a couple from me:

GridNotes

GridWork

 
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